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Was Jesus for you a TRANSFORMATION?

Now the word is very fashionable TRANSFORMATION, of the hand of the famous film of James Cameron who in spite of his great budget did not gain the Oscar.

Nevertheless James Cameron invented of course, neither the word TRANSFORMATION nor the same concept. In the film, the ups and downs are bodies clonados without personality (without “soul� it would say some that believes in the dichotomy “soul-person�) to which a human being, the personality of a human being is transferred so that these ups and downs are handled by the mind of a human.

Then these beings are extraterrestrial ones physically speaking called Navis (the name of a local tribe) but in fact this is FALSE, is a DECEIT. They are in fact HUMAN who HAVE INCARNATED THEMSELVES, transferred their personality to these bodies. That is the concept of the film TRANSFORMATION.

This concept is very common in several religions.

Within the framework of Hinduism, a transformation is the terrestrial incarnation of a God,

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar

And this is the definition of the concept that more or less defines the word in other religions. But there are many churches, in fact the majority of which Christians are called, who create in this false doctrine of the TRANSFORMATION without their followers in fact at least realize of which in fact they are believing a doctrine that comes neither from the Judaism nor from the Christianity, but of the pagan towns.

If there are an unifying and common factor for all the sects and churches, from the Catholic Church, the Mormones, the evangelical ones (and its maze of cults), the witnesses of Jehovah and some messianic groups, even are that ALL THINK THAT JESUS WAS a TRANSFORMATION.

Please lealo again because it is of those immense luminous posters that happen unnoticed in the fog that the “God of this world� the devil has seeded everywhere so that the people, even the pious ones, get to believe without wanting what not even they imagine.

The devil has convinced to thousands of trinitarios, of which in fact they adore to a single God and of that are not politeístas.  It has convinced them that one is equal to three, and of which to adore three people as God each of them does not make politeístas. And he is useless to try to illuminate this subject: concerning group they continue repeating THREE IS EQUAL TO ONE: WE ONLY CREATE IN A GOD THAT IS THREE.

Also the devil has obtained that All the cristiandad including which they do not create in the traditional Trinidad as the Witnesses of Jehovah and mormones create that Jesus is a TRANSFORMATION.

For all of them, Jesus is not human. For all of them Jesus he was not born in the Earth, but he was born in the sky does very many time, not like human of course, since in the sky they do not live human. Jesus was born in the sky according to them like a celestial being, for others not even was born: he always existed there.  This celestial being not even was called Jesus of course, since Jesus were the name that received in the Earth. For some of them this being was call Miguel in the sky (I invite to which they read this to that they say to me in that chapter and versicle of the Bible says that Jesus is Miguel, or that Jesus IS arcángel very textually), for others it was part of the deity.

This being put within an embryo, INCARNATED ITSELF. He is then, that Jesus who walked on the Earth, in which the CHRISTIANS FROM the FIRST CENTURY WE CREATE LIKE a HUMAN BEING, in fact a TRANSFORMATION. He is not human absolutely.

He only has a human appearance: it is in fact another thing in his personality and origin. It is the mind of an angel or arcángel or a God who handles to that body like a puppet of meat and bone, that TRANSFORMATION.

THIS IS WHAT THE CHURCHES OF TODAY IN THEIR MAJORITY CREATE: THAT JESUS WAS A TRANSFORMATION.

And I say WAS because for them, Jesus died. And when reviving in fact it did not revive Jesus. It was not a resurrection in the felt plenary session: simply a RETURN TO the SKY went, got rid of its TRANSFORMATION, its human body and now he is the celestial being who was before. So for them Jesus, disappeared.

Ugly way has found the devil to make disappear to the true Jesus of the map!   It is no wonder the apostle Juan gave like KEY to differentiate to a TRUE CHRISTIAN from an ANTICHRIST a simple question: who think that JESUS IS HUMAN they are of God, who deny that JESUS IS HUMAN are the antichrist.

1 Juan 4:2 (God Speaks Today)

2 This way you can know who has the Spirit of God: all that recognizes that Jesus Christ came like true man, has the Spirit of God.

The majority of the versions translates “come in meat� instead of “true man�. The translation that is even trinitaria GOD SPEECH TODAY illuminates the Greek meaning of the original one: “come in meat� it, that is to say, means ABSOLUTELY HUMAN the one that does not confess TOTALLY to MEAT JESUS or as we would nowadays say OF MEAT AND BONE, it does not have the spirit of God.

The own Jesus was first in clarifying, after to revive that HE IS a man, and he denied SPECIFICALLY that outside a spirit. Jesus DENIED to have been a TRANSFORMATION and he confessed like a human being of meat and revived bone.

If you want to think that Jesus is a spirit who this in the sky, arcángel perhaps, Jesus has something to say to him:

“You watch my hands and my feet, that I myself I am: you feel, and you see; that a spirit neither has meat nor bones, as you see that I have.� (Lucas 24:39)

It was a given body that Jesus used to only convince them?

Jesus responds: I MYSELF I AM (that is, I AM NOT a TRANSFORMATION, I AM NOT a BODY PUPPET, I AM I myself)

He was a spirit Jesus when it revived?

Jesus responds: A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE MEAT AND BONES AS THEY SEE THAT I HAVE.

Those of the town of God that we have been born after the birth of the MesĂ­as, we think as those that they lived before the birth of the MesĂ­as, that the MesĂ­as is a man who is born in the Earth, of meat and bone.

Those of the town of God that we were born after been born the MesĂ­as, we know but clearly some details such as that man was generated miraculously by God and that had to die and to revive before coming to govern.

But we think that he was human when being born, human when dying and human when reviving.

For us the Earth Christians, Jesus NACIO.

The leavening of the antichrist standard that WAS BORN IN the SKY.

The writings? They describe his Earth birth wonderfully. They never mention to the MesĂ­as in the sky before being born neither being born nor realizing no activity.

For us the Christians, Jesus is a HUMAN BEING.

The leavening of the antichrist says that Jesus WAS a TRANSFORMATION, a body PUPPET of a God or celestial being, doctrine that shares with Hinduism (Hinduism and the bahaismo creates LITERALLY that Jesus was a TRANSFORMATION in case anybody was not to as much and to thus they call him) and other pagan religions.

What say the writings?  The writings say that Jesus is a man very many times:

ROM 5:15 the grace of God and the gift of the grace, comes that us by a single man, Jesus Christ, has spread abundantly

Facts 17:31 inasmuch as it has determined the day in which it will judge to the Earth with justice, by means of a Man, to whom has constituted judge,

1Ti 2:5 Because one is God, the one also mediator between God and the men, the man Christ Jesus,

1Co 15:45 That for that reason is written: “The first man, Adam, were made soul living�; the last Adam, vivifying spirit.�

Sea 15:39 Seeing the centurion, that it was against, how expired, said: Truly this man was Son of God.

Lucas 24:39 You see my hands and my feet, that I am. Palpadme and you see, that the spirit does not have meat nor bones as you see that I have.

Facts 1:11 and said to them: Galileos men, what you are watching the sky? That Jesus who has been taken among you to the sky will come thus, since you have seen him go to the sky.
There is no a single text that says that Jesus is an angel. There is only no text that says that it is a God. There is no a single text that says that it is a feline or horse or a spirit or another thing by NATURE that is not that: a human being.

He has the title of God, is symbolically called “the lion to him� of the tribe of Judá, is called “the lamb symbolically to him�, says itself that when comes it will do it with a voice “of árcangel�, compares itself to him then with animal, beings, him dá title of God as one occurred him to Moisés before him, like him dá to the devil also (·the God of this world�) but never says the Bible that JESUS IS ANOTHER THING THAT a MAN.

It time and time again says that HE IS a MAN, not a TRANSFORMATION of another thing.

It hurts me and me unworthy lie cruel to put to glorious Jesus, our MesĂ­as, that supported what no human being was able to support, that as his man and being able by right to have protested government immediate of the Earth because he had the rank of God, I humiliate to category of simple slave to do to kill for to be able to redeem us, that to victorious and powerful Jesus of meat and bone that won all the certain battles groups or put it to individuals like a meat puppet and bone, that was used by a celestial being and soon rejected, HURTS AND UNWORTHY ME to ME.

Respect I them religions that create in the doctrine of the TRANSFORMATION like the catholics, evangelical, hinduistas, bahaistas and following witnesses of Jehovah, mormones, of Sai Dribble even? Good, God made free all the human beings accept it to, the unique God and to his human MesĂ­as or to reject them and that rejects Jesus it also rejects the Father.

We only have a JESUS: Jesus Christ Man.  (1 Timoteo 2:5)

Any other Jesus: Jesus angel, Jesus arcángel, Jesus a God, Jesus transformation, is not OUR JESUS and therefore we cannot accept it like mediator.

We respect the free will of other religions to think what they decide to believe. But the spiritual Christians, mesianos, Jews WE DO NOT CREATE in the doctrine of the transformation.

The Bible does not teach anything on ups and downs. It does not teach the incarnation. It does not explain nor it develops the concept. There is no a single case of a being of a nature that is born generated in a body of another nature.

The unique cases that the Bible mentions where celestial beings (spiritual) take the control from meat bodies, are the case of the demons becoming meat bodies or owning the bodies of people already been born.

The Bible never mentions a celestial being being born in the Earth. Neither to Jesus nor to no other.

Jesus was born in the Earth, because he is a man and he will continue being a man for always, our unique leader and governor for glory of God the Unique God, the Father.

Amen.

Apolos of Montevideo

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I am before Abraham: that quizĂł to say?

Before Abraham I AM.

The HEBREW meaning of the words of JeĂşs: the Bible does not teach anything of ups and downs nor incarnated Gods. We read what really the human MesĂ­as said that we followed.

Jesus is human

Jesus was born in the Earth. If he were born in the Earth… cannot have been born in another place then only gets itself to exist Once, certain?

Of emails with questions that receipt I would like to respond some publicly in case the grace of the Blessed one can do it of utility for others:

In response to an email of date and initials:

2010/3/6 ls. a.m.

Which says to me:

Hello brother in Yahwéh by means of the Mesías, I have been seeing your beliefs and are right according to the Sagradas Scriptures. As far as the preexistence of the Mesías the Scriptures clearly say that existia before Abraham, said it to he himself in front of their enemies, kindly a brother yours and servant of Yahwéh Luis Alberto

Before the glory of blessed Yavé and its Mesías I respond to him:

Shalom L.A.:

We do not have to make say to the writing which does not say. According to the Version Queen Valera of 1960 Jesus it expressed a clear Hebrew concept: that it was predestined to being the MesĂ­as Before being born, as JeremĂ­as was predestined to being a prophet Before being born.

Of JeremĂ­as it says:

“It trained Before you in the belly I knew you, and before you left the matrix I sanctified to you, dí you by prophet to the people.� (Jeremías 1:5)

Of the MesĂ­as it says that it was PREPARATION from before being born, but that just in the century first got to exist or ONE PRONOUNCED his town:

“Because it was preparation from before the foundation of the world, but
it has declared in these last times by love� (1 Pedro 1:20)

Also it says that the MesĂ­as WAS DEGOLLADO before being born, long before also being born Abraham clearly.

“And all that dwell in the Earth adored to him, whose names are not written in the book of the life of the Lamb, which was dead from the start of the world� (Apocalypse 13:8, Queen Valera 1909)

Why the Bible mentions that Jesus the Lamb was dead from the start of the world, that is from Genesis? Because from the start of the world I am predestined to die in the plan of God due to the sin of the man. So the Scripture at no moment says that Jesus EXISTED before being born. It clearly says that the death of Jesus, the mission of Jeremías prophet and in fact we ourself as Church already we existed like PART OF the YAVÉ PLAN. If you think that to have glory before being born he is synonymous to exist according to the Bible, you could well hacerte mormón and think like them that all we had conscious existence before being born since the Scripture says:

“It chose According to us in him before the foundation of the world, so that we were holy and without spot in front of him in love; � (Efesios 1:4)

According to the Scripture I had glory next to the Father before the world was, since it outside chose so that santo to me and without spot Before the world was. I could, just as Jesus, just as my brothers that compose the Church, to watch the sky and to say:

“Dame the glory that I had with you before the world was�

And simply it would be asking that the plan is fulfilled for which I was chosen before being born, according to the writings: like JeremĂ­as (that had glory of prophet Before being born) like Jesus (who had glory of MesĂ­as Before being born). But neither I, nor the members of the Church, nor JeremĂ­as, nor the MesĂ­as existed before being born.

The Scriptures do not mention to JeremĂ­as in the sky speaking, or walking in the Earth, or sending messages before being born. The writings do not mention to the apostle Pablo speaking to him to the disciples, eating, singing or making any thing that an alive being does before being born. The writings mention Jesus speaking, neither singing, nor eating, nor sending messages, nor laughing nor realizing no activity before the moment at which the angel Gabriel says that it will happen thus:

“And I have here, you will conceive in your sine, and you will give birth a son, and you will call its JESUS name.  This he will be great, and it will be called Son of the Highest one: and his father will give to Mr. God the throne him of David� (Lucas 1:31, 32)

If Jesus existed before being born the angel had to say “you will incarnate� or “you receive� a son and “YOU DO NOT CONCEIVE� a son, which implies to give to RISE AND PRINCIPLE. On the other hand the angel says clearly that “Son of the Highest one will be called�, says WILL BE in future time thus that being ERA NOT YET CALLED SON OF the HIGHEST one. If you think that Jesus already existed in the sky, then you are according to the writing to think that it was not call Son of the Highest one in the sky and then one asks Son of whom would be back in the sky before coming and putting in the belly of Maria….also one is wondered why the Old Testament stayed dumb throughout and of course, one is wondered why the angel Gabriel in that case was as lying as to say to him to Maria who was going TO CONCEIVE a Son and NOT TO RECEIVE in his belly a already existing being….

Also one continues reading the Scripture and it is with this text:

“And Jesus grew in wisdom, and age, and grace towards God and the men.� (Lucas 1:52)

And one is asked like a being who existed in the sky could being an Earth boy to be GROWING IN AGE in WISDOM and GRACE towards God, as if he had never existed. The phrase “creciendoen in AGE, in WISDOM and in GRACE� they only have sense in a human being arrived at the Earth existence not in an INCARNATED celestial being. In fact the INCARNATION is a concept of greco-romana mythology, where their Gods were born all along like humans. It is a Hindu concept: where their Gods in the form of “ups and downs� incarnate in the Earth (like Sai Dribble, Krisna, etc) the INCARNATION IS NOT a BIBLICAL EDUCATION. I ask to you that you say to me where the Bible explains the process by means of which already existing a celestial being puts within the belly of a virgin to be born like being human. Without ambiguedades. It must to say it so clearly as every time it says that Jesus simply IS BORN and TO BE BORN is TO GET TO EXIST in the Biblical theology.

However we arrived at the famous phrase of Jesus, saying that before Abraham I AM.  Jesus used the expression I I AM for defining as far as several ranks or functions that would occupy.

“I am the life bread.� (Juan 6:48)

Since when it is the bread of the life? Then like leimos in Apocalypse 13:8 from the start of the world, since the man sinned and required his sacrifice. Since when YOU ARE the bread of the Masterful life? it would have asked somebody and it would have answered without lying “From before Abraham I was born I am the bread of the life�, and without nobody understood that it lived in the sky and “she was gotten up semi� like a God in the belly of a young person.

It reads all the chapter 8 of Juan. Jesus says: “I AM the light of the world� (Juan 8:12). Since when you are the light of the world? “From before Abraham he was born I am�.  If, and we also as Efesios says. IN THE PLAN DE GOD.

“I am of above; �, that is to say an ENVOY of God, I am “of God� (the Jewish ones frequently said “of above� or “skies� instead of saying “of God� like podés clearly to appreciate). Since when you are “of above� Mr. Jesus?  “From before Abraham he was born, I AM�. And he is correct, Jesus was predestined to BEING to BEING the Mesias from before the world he was, from before Abraham was born.

“The one that is of God, the words of God hears: by this you do not hear, because you are not of God� (Juan 8:47, compares itself to itself that “he is of God�, as before said that “it was of above� and that “was not of this world�, with the fariseos that “ARE NOT DE GOD�, that is to say that they are not the chosen ones within the plan of God because they make the evil conscientiously)

In that context they ask to him:

“Are you greater than our Abraham father, who died? and the prophets died: who you become same� (Juan 8:53)

The question is clear. They ask to him if it has a position or greater hierarchy to the one of Abraham or to the one of the prophets. A human being could only be but who Abraham and the prophets: the Mesías. So in fact they are asking to him IF IT IS the MESIAS, in fact until they fear to ask it directly and they say to him “who you become same� , as saying “you are not going to us to come whereupon sos the own Mesías .....�

Before that question Jesus it responds soon in the conversation:

“Abraham your father was enjoyed to see my day; and vió, and enjoyed� (Juan 8:58), that is to say that God allowed him to Abraham by means of the faith (according to the book of Hebrew 11) to see the arrival of the Mesías. Evidently the MESIAS already ERA in the plan of God before being born Abraham, that is exactly what means says it clearly to Jesus: that Abraham saw ITS DAY and WAS ENJOYED. If Jesus already existed… for which to be able to see Jesus Abraham he had to do the future?

Jesus would have said simply “Abraham watched the sky and he saw me and he enjoyed himself�. But Lee clearly says that “to Abraham joy TO SEE MY DAY�, that is the century first, the future time. So that it could see the MESIAS, Yavé caused that Abraham by the faith SAW The future, because there was no another form to see the Mesías since IT EXISTED IN the SKY NEITHER IN the EARTH NOR IN NO OTHER PLACE THAT ABRAHAM COULD SEE IT EXCEPT IN The future.

Before that the fariseos that understand everything the other way around, ask something to him that Jesus did not say:

“Then Dijéronle the Jews: Not yet you are fifty years old, and you have seen to Abraham� (Juan 8:57)

Where Jesus said that HE HAD SEEN ABRAHAM fariseos gentlemen? Jesus finishes saying quite the opposite! He finishes saying that the one was ABRAHAM that saw the future, and when seeing the future IT SAW HIS DAY it enjoyed and it!  Leélo 20 times and decime WHEN in all their sermon Jesus says that it has seen Abraham…. sure the fariseos listened what they wanted so that “they were not of God� as Jesus explained before. Before this Jesus it responds to the proud fariseos that had asked to him if it were but who Abraham and the prophets who is really:

“Díjoles Jesus: Of certain, of certain I say to you: Before Abraham was, I am.� (Juan 8:58)

I am or am BEFORE or FIRST who Abraham. I AM or AM, BEFORE or FIRST who the prophets. I AM THAT.

I AM THE MESIAS.

It is the SECOND time in the Gospel de Juan who Jesus says I I AM for clarifying that he is the MesĂ­as. The first time a Samaritan one was asked to it, second asked the hostile fariseos to it. Whatever twice I answered I AM.

“Dícele the woman: I know that the Mesías has to come, which says the Christ: when it comes declares all the things to us. Dícele Jesus: I am, that I speak with you.�  (Juan 4:25,26)

I believe in Scriptures, and the Scriptures teach that JeremĂ­as IS prophet from before being born. But not literally but in the plan of God. Amen.

I believe in Scriptures, and the Scriptures teach that I am part of the Town of God from Before the world existed, although still did not exist.  Amen.

I believe in Scriptures, and the Scriptures teach that Jesus is MES�AS from the start of the world, that was dead from the start of the world, long before that Abraham was born, and that IS before Abraham and IS and THIS in importance before Abraham and the prophets because it is the Mesías. I create what the writings say: that it was born in Bethlehem, there they say the writings that were conceived and were born, in no side say that it was born in the sky. In no side they say that “it was incarnated� in Bethlehem. In no side it says that it has seen Abraham, but it saw it to Abraham him in the future already like Mesías.

That standard the Bible I create and it.

I do not believe in the doctrine that a God of smaller rank incarnates itself in the matrix of a woman to snatch a body of meat in the form of transformation during some years and soon to die and to leave that body thrown, and to return to be a God in skies. This believed the Greeks to it, the Romans and to the Hindus they continue them believing.

Respect your religion friend, respect all the religions, but this is not what the Bible teaches. That is not my Jesus. My Jesus is of meat and bone, is a human being born in Bethlehem does about two thousand years, died and revived in a body of meat and bone in which he will return to reign from Jerusalem the entire world as the Scriptures teach.

Baruj ties Hashem!

Apolos of Montevideo

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